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In this episode of PEP Talk, we speak with Ruta Tonumaivao — community leader, systems navigator, and co-founder of Tapasā Navigating Futures.


Ruta shares how her leadership journey didn’t begin in an office or a boardroom, but in a busy West Auckland home where multiple generations lived together and service to family was simply a way of life.


From helping her parents navigate systems as a child to supporting communities today, her story shows how leadership often grows quietly through responsibility, culture, and care for others.


This conversation explores:

  • How culture shapes leadership identity

  • Why service is stronger than status

  • Navigating two worlds as a Pacific New Zealander

  • Turning lived experience into community impact


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