
Ila, an occupational therapist and co-founder of Zeno Mountain Farm, shares what it takes to build a community in Vermont where people with and without disabilities live, work, and create together. She also dives into the films Zeno makes—not just about disability, but about real stories and people—showing why representation in culture matters. This episode is about the messy, joyful work of inclusion and the friendships that make it real.


I’m Léa Hirschfeld and this is Out of Sync : exploring life through disability, one story at a time.  
New episodes drop every Tuesday on all platforms with transcripts on Youtube. 


🇫🇷 For French stories: @decales_podcast
Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

Ila, an occupational therapist and co-founder of Zeno Mountain Farm, shares what it takes to build a community in Vermont where people with and without disabilities live, work, and create together. She also dives into the films Zeno makes—not just about disability, but about real stories and people—showing why representation in culture matters. This episode is about the messy, joyful work of inclusion and the friendships that make it real. I’m Léa Hirschfeld and this is Out of Sync : exploring life through disability, one story at a time. New episodes drop every Tuesday on all platforms with transcripts on Youtube. 🇫🇷 For French stories: @decales_podcast Hosted on Ausha. See <a href="https://ausha.co/privacy-policy">ausha.co/privacy-policy</a> for more information.

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Out of Sync is an intimate podcast about life through disability — and a space for listening — created and hosted by me, Léa Hirschfeld. The first series was recorded across the United States during a Villa Albertine residency, from Vermont’s snow to California’s sun, gathering voices from Zeno Mountain Farm and beyond.
Some guests are characters in my French-language book ZENO. The recordings came first; the book followed later. Together, they trace the same world — not as adaptations, but as parallel gestures — told in different languages, at different moments in time.


Out of Sync will then open up to other English-language stories from different places, shaped by distinct lives, territories, and communities.


Transcripts for each episode are available on our YouTube channel: Out of Sync Podcast.


New episodes drop every Tuesday.
For French stories, visit www.decalespodcast.com (http://www.decalespodcast.com)

Out of Sync : exploring life through disability — one story at a time.
Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

Out of Sync is an intimate podcast about life through disability — and a space for listening — created and hosted by me, Léa Hirschfeld. The first series was recorded across the United States during a Villa Albertine residency, from Vermont’s snow to California’s sun, gathering voices from Zeno Mountain Farm and beyond.Some guests are characters in my French-language book ZENO. The recordings came first; the book followed later. Together, they trace the same world — not as adaptations, but as parallel gestures — told in different languages, at different moments in time. Out of Sync will then open up to other English-language stories from different places, shaped by distinct lives, territories, and communities. Transcripts for each episode are available on our YouTube channel: Out of Sync Podcast. New episodes drop every Tuesday.For French stories, visit <a href="http://www.decalespodcast.com">www.decalespodcast.com</a> Out of Sync : exploring life through disability — one story at a time. Hosted on Ausha. See <a href="https://ausha.co/privacy-policy">ausha.co/privacy-policy</a> for more information.