
Most legal AI conversations happen in the abstract. Not for Justine Campbell, Chief Legal Officer at National Grid.


National Grid runs the electricity and gas transmission networks across the UK and the US, and literally keeps the lights on. In this episode, Justine joins PERSUIT COO Michelle Landy to talk about what AI adoption actually looks like when your industry is heavily regulated, your customers can't opt out, and the margin for error is nil.


They cover:
Why speed is the wrong metric for legal transformation in a regulated business
How National Grid is piloting AI tools — and the non-negotiable guardrails around them
Running hackathons with external law firms to co-design solutions
What "right-sizing" outside counsel relationships really means
The capability that will separate leading legal departments over the next few years


If you work in legal, compliance, or operations in energy, financial services, healthcare, or any other heavily regulated sector — this one's for you.


The world's top in-house teams aren't just managing their firms — they're mobilizing value. PERSUIT (https://www.persuit.com/).


Lead with value.
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Most legal AI conversations happen in the abstract. Not for Justine Campbell, Chief Legal Officer at National Grid. National Grid runs the electricity and gas transmission networks across the UK and the US, and literally keeps the lights on. In this episode, Justine joins PERSUIT COO Michelle Landy to talk about what AI adoption actually looks like when your industry is heavily regulated, your customers can't opt out, and the margin for error is nil. They cover:<ul><li>Why speed is the wrong metric for legal transformation in a regulated business</li><li>How National Grid is piloting AI tools — and the non-negotiable guardrails around them</li><li>Running hackathons with external law firms to co-design solutions</li><li>What "right-sizing" outside counsel relationships really means</li><li>The capability that will separate leading legal departments over the next few years</li></ul> If you work in legal, compliance, or operations in energy, financial services, healthcare, or any other heavily regulated sector — this one's for you. The world's top in-house teams aren't just managing their firms — they're mobilizing value. <a href="https://www.persuit.com/">PERSUIT</a>. Lead with value. Hosted on Ausha. See <a href="https://ausha.co/privacy-policy">ausha.co/privacy-policy</a> for more information.

National Grid's Justine Campbell on Leadership, Regulation and Keeping the Lights On


The PERSUIT podcast delivers deep dive conversations into the innovations and issues facing today's legal leaders. Each episode offers actionable insights for more effective outside counsel selection and management to help in-house teams lead with value. 
Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

The PERSUIT podcast delivers deep dive conversations into the innovations and issues facing today's legal leaders. Each episode offers actionable insights for more effective outside counsel selection and management to help in-house teams lead with value. Hosted on Ausha. See <a href="https://ausha.co/privacy-policy">ausha.co/privacy-policy</a> for more information.